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Maps on SD card How do you get the maps on the card

Posted 19 January 2011 - 06:33 PM (#1) User is offline   spotnick 

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I have co-pilot installed along with the maps (US and Canada) on the internal memory of the tablet. I didnt get a chance to say where to load the maps after instal of software - it just shoved them in internal memory. Despite best efforts I have been unable to get the app to work with the maps on the external SD card - that is having created a copilot folder on the external card, moved the maps to it and also deleted the copilot folder from internal memory. Whenever I start copilot it says it cant find any maps and proceeds to create all the folders within the copilot directory again on the internal memory but without any maps.

Anyone managed to get maps which have been installed in internal memory on to the external SD card?
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Posted 19 January 2011 - 07:07 PM (#2) User is offline   wizz 

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Hi spotnick,

Welcome to the forum, by the way........

A UK member had this problem too, and had to return them back to internal memory.

I think you should have a word with Alk, they have been very helpful to some of the other members..

I don't think you can just "shove" them on to external SD card, because the path will still point to the internal location.

The last program update did allow this feature, so try installing to internal memory, and then go to Settings/Applications/Manage applications, select the CoPilot program, and use the "Move to SD card" option and see if that works.

Otherwise, as I said, try Alk Support....
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Posted 19 January 2011 - 07:22 PM (#3) User is offline   jkurl15 

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This is what I got from alk. I was having major issues w/ the program. They never specifically mentioned to put the program on the sd card maybe the assume people will do that. I installed the program to main memory and went to the as card and it creates a folder there by default so I am guessing they made it to where it uses the sd card to store maps and other large items. I am now in the process of deleting that folder and replacing it w/ the downloaded copilot folder from alk. I had to reformat my sd card as it got corrupted. I will let you all know if you can use maps on the sd card w/ out moving the program.

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Thanks for the Welcome Wizz. I have been in contact with ALK but so far no joy but at least it works on internal memory. I have tried the "move to sd card" option in settings but "you've guessed it" no luck. I dont intend to give up here - just wonder if it has anything to do with the external sd card known as external_sd when viewed in
the "file manager" which is empty when tablet is connected to the PC (2 drives open in explorer - one for internal sd and one for the atual external sd which shows all files on the card) - whereas on the HTC desire HD the external sd card is shown as sdcard when viewed by the "file manager" app.

There has got to be a way round this!!
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Posted 19 January 2011 - 09:02 PM (#5) User is offline   spotnick 

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By the way jcurl15 - I tried with the file supplied by Alk and had no joy after copying that to the SD card.
As you say it needs a change to the path used by copilot for the maps
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Posted 19 January 2011 - 09:14 PM (#6) User is offline   jkurl15 

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Yep I just found out the hard way. I think I might have a bad sd card. I am going to format it again and try it again.

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Posted 20 January 2011 - 07:34 PM (#7) User is offline   spotnick 

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Anyone got any where with this - I have had a rep[ly from Alk stating there is no way that it will work with
maps on the sd card. I am still searching. file user.cfg holds some interesting info - may just have to do a bit of editing here!
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Posted 20 January 2011 - 08:41 PM (#8) User is offline   spotnick 

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Ok got it to work with the maps on the SD card and not on internal memory. Havent found any problems yet but I'm hungry so have stopped testing. I only have North America maps (US and Canada) so cant test the actual direction capabilities in the maps new position. Only strange thing I have found is that before I moved the maps the switch maps option showed Canada and North America and now it doesnt show either but still seems to work.

I can't take credit for this - it is posted out on the web somewhere how to do it but not on the tab.
For anyone who is interested (at your own risk):-

1) take a copy of the full copilot directory on internal sd card and shove it on your external sd card (fallback).
2) create copilot directory on the external drive and copy maps to it (in my case they were under a directory NA but you may have EU).
3) Delete the corresponding directory from the copilot directory on internal SD card.
4) edit the user.cfg file in the root of the copilot directory on the internal SD (notepad)
Change where ever NA(or EU or whatever) is mentioned frm /mnt/copilot/ to /mnt/copilot/external_sd/ if external_sd is the name that your tablet knows the external SD card as.

And bingo no maps on the internal card. If it doesnt wok then you can just copy back your saved backup from step 1.

Let me know if that works for anyone else - or if anyone else is willing to give it a go. I am not responsible for any failures.
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Posted 21 January 2011 - 03:58 PM (#9) User is offline   jkurl15 

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Wizz is your device rooted. Copilot is giving me such a bad time. Alk has helped alot but man my device does not like copilot or any other gps I have tried.

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View Postjkurl15, on 21 January 2011 - 03:58 PM, said:

Wizz is your device rooted. Copilot is giving me such a bad time. Alk has helped alot but man my device does not like copilot or any other gps I have tried.


No....not at all.

It works like a dream from a standard install.

Gps signal is equally as good as the one in my TomTom XL

The only bug I have found, is that sometimes the voice reverts to the TTS one........ but I'm not sure under what circumstances this happens.

I may speak to Alk about it....but it's just a minor annoyance.

What issues are you having, and is your install standard ?
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Posted 21 January 2011 - 09:13 PM (#11) User is offline   spotnick 

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Just to let you know I had a reply from alk to say that there is no way the app will work with the maps on an external card. Well that is true with the way the current installation works but as I said it can be fooled.
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Posted 21 January 2011 - 09:40 PM (#12) User is offline   jkurl15 

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I did have a standard install but I am rooted now. I was having problems w/ copilot before I even rooted. For some reason now when I install the app it will freeze during setup. I have had it do this on both internal and external install. This was going on before I even rooted the tab. I am going to keep trying to get it to work. The other problem was when I downloaded the maps I would get a download error so they had me download the maps and then do a fresh install, delete the copilot folder and then replace it w/ the folder I downloaded. I was getting a poi error but atleast it worked. Strange but they are being very helpful and working through it w/ me.

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I finally got it to work and the worst part it wasn't even copilots fault. I found out it was two bad micro sd cards. I bought 2 32gb generic sd cards and boy was this a learning mistake. I popped in a 8gb sandisk card, formatted it loaded the maps on the card and bam it worked perfectly. Man i feel like an a#$. ALK support is awesome.

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jkurl15,

What maps did you load on the external card - was it just the NA or EU folder (or whatever) and did you load them in a copilot directory?. Were the maps originally on the internal memory which you deleted?
Perhaps you could outline exactly what steps you went thru to get the maps working on the external card as
whatever I tried did not work - hence changing the paths in the config file. And I reformmated the card as well. Thanks
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Here is what I did, well they had me do this.

1. Uninstall copilot
2. Clear cache in market app
3. Backup sd card
4. Format sd card

Download NA maps from the Internet and unzipped. There is two folder 2572 and copilot. You will use the copilot folder only.

1. Install copilot
2. Move copilot to sd card
3. Delete copilot folder
4. Put new copilot folder in the root of the sd card.
5. Start up copilot and it should work.

My problem was two crappy generic sd cards. I popped in a 8gb Sandisk card I used w/ my bb. Formatted it and did all the work up above and it worked just fine.

Thanks wizz for recommending a great gps app who has awesome support.

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Posted 22 January 2011 - 11:09 PM (#16) User is offline   spotnick 

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jkurl15

Thanks for that but just a couple of questions as I am having trouble understanding what elements of copilot are where.

1) You have in step 2 of 5 move copilot to sd card - I assume this is move the application to the sd card from the settings screens.

2) In step 3 of 5 you then delete copilot folder - is this the folder on the internal memory just created when you installed copilot and so you now have no trace of copilot on internal memory?

3) When you then start up copilot does it go thru a start up again as though it hasnt been installed because
you have deleted all its files in step 3 (e.g. ask for language and do you want to download a voice).
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Posted 22 January 2011 - 11:19 PM (#17) User is offline   jkurl15 

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View Postspotnick, on 22 January 2011 - 11:09 PM, said:

jkurl15

Thanks for that but just a couple of questions as I am having trouble understanding what elements of copilot are where.

1) You have in step 2 of 5 move copilot to sd card - I assume this is move the application to the sd card from the settings screens.

2) In step 3 of 5 you then delete copilot folder - is this the folder on the internal memory just created when you installed copilot and so you now have no trace of copilot on internal memory?

3) When you then start up copilot does it go thru a start up again as though it hasnt been installed because
you have deleted all its files in step 3 (e.g. ask for language and do you want to download a voice).

Spotnick,

In step 2 you are correct move it to the sd card in the setting menu and go through the startup process after you move it to the sd card. Don't worry about downloading the maps as you will do that from your computer. The copilot folder you use to replace the one on the sd card contains the maps you bought.

In step 3 you will delete the copilot folder from the sd card. Copy and paste the new copilot folder you downloaded from alk onto the sd card. I know it sounds like it would be getting rid of the program but it doesn't.

Once you do this open up copilot again and you will only have to do a portion of the stuff over again like pick the language and voice.

I hope this helps you out. If you are having trouble give alk a shout they are pretty good about responding back w/ help.

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Thanks jkurl15 - I will get a new sd card, format it and start again with this. Gonna keep exisiting card as at least I can always get back to a working version albeit hacked to work. Does seems strange that I got this from alk when you have had success with alk - were you using US support - I am using UK support.

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Dear Nick,

Thank you for contacting CoPilot Technical Support.

It appears that it is just not possible on the Samsung Galaxy Tablet to have the data read from the SD card. This same scenario is also with the Samsung Galaxy S Android Mobile phone that only allows the maps to be read from the internal memory.

The steps that we took were necessary in order to determine this, as potentional issues of maps not being recognised are:

-Maps are corrupted (downloading new maps and putting on SD card should solve this)
-Corrupted SD card (format of SD card should solve this)
-Structure of Copilot folder is not correct or put in the wrong place (checked this with you and this has been set up correctly)

Because this tablet has not been tested with copilot I was not able to give a definite indication if the maps are recognised form the SD card or not. My apologies for the inconvenience of the trouble shooting steps that have been taken.

From the steps taken it appears that Copilot will just not recognise the maps from the SD card and will only choose to look for them else where and in this case that is the internal memory of the Android tablet.
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sorry jkurl15

What is the folder name of your external sd card as viewed within the my files app?

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No name. When I formatted it on my Mac I didn't give it a name. I was using what support answered me. His name was Fred not sure where he was from. I did a support request from their website. That is weird they say it won't work as mine works fine.

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